Face Mask Interview with OSHA expert Tammy Clark 5/5 (3)


 

You’re told to wear a mask to protect others from COVID-19.

It’s not about protecting you as the masks aren’t sufficient for protecting you against viruses.

The questions are:

• Are masks safe for people to wear?

• What other options are available if you can’t wear a mask?

• What risks exist from wearing a mask? T

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thank you all for being here and as you
know i’ve been

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discussing masks for some time i’ve been
looking at

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the issues behind mass the benefits
behind masks

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and you know should your child go to
school with a mask and so what should

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they wear
so there’s there’s many many issues here

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and there’s a lot of science behind it
and i can’t

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keep up with the science on it i don’t
even not even try

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so what I did is I wanted to you know
seek out an expert who knows about masks

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and that’s Tammy
and Tammy Clark is with us today right

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now and she’s going to give us a
tremendous amount of information and

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resources
so Tammy awesome for you to be here

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appreciate it
yeah thanks for having me it’s great to

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be with you today
yeah and so tammy has been very very

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active with the whole mast thing and

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tell us about you know what you’re doing
with Michigan

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yeah so my background is environmental
health safety and compliance so i’ve

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worked for the last
nearly 20 years in the world of

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occupational safety and health so
a lot of that work involves masks

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as far as PPE surgical masks, N95
masks

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respirators, half-face, full-face
filtering papr’s you name it

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and as a doctor, you’re probably
familiar with

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surgical baths and n95s and things like
that so

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when we started having discussions about
putting people

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in masks homemade cloth masks surgical
masks n95s were being

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passed out like candy back in March and
April

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that really really concerned me and a
lot of my colleagues in the

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environmental health and safety fields
our red flags went up because you don’t

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do that you don’t just put people in
face masks cover the mouth and nose

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and expect people to breathe normally
and safely like that

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there is a reason that OSHA has
standards there is a reason that

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respirator standards were created
and PPE including respirators must be

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tested
and approved before you legally can even

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put an employee
in them and allow them to work that way

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so when we started hearing the
discussions about regular mask wearing

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masks for everybody especially with
children that really

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concerned me and at this time our state
was being locked down

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in Michigan our governor is particularly
egregious

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and she has just locked us down with all
these crazy random

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arbitrary, nonsensical mandates
and started you know telling everyone we

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needed to wear masks
and that’s about the same time that I

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got involved with the group stand up
Michigan

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just because it was a group of
business owners

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that were really to be honest with you
ticked off at being told

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our jobs were not necessary we did not
have the right to keep our businesses

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open and feed our children and pay our
employees

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and so we got together as a group and
started and formed the group stand up

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Michigan
to stand up against the tyranny to stand

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up against the lies because there are a
lot of deception

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a deceptive lies agendas and
really nonsensical and non-scientific

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unsupported mandates that are just being
shoved down our throats

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and we just decided to stand up and say
no we’re not doing it

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i’m just at a loss for words because if
you know OSHA has been around

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and for a long time and there’s been a
lot of jokes about OSHA about how

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you know strict they are how stringent
they are but

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you know i own a company and we have 30
on our team

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and you know we have inspections
periodically and making sure that we’re

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doing the right thing for our team and keeping

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them healthy so
you know is there why is the government

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mandating masks
well i’m trying to try to phrase this

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without getting political and it’s tough
let me just go right to the comic

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that a lot of people use you’ve probably
seen the

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the meme going out maybe not even a meme
because it’s not supposed to be

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funny where there’s a person wearing
pants

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uh and another person not wearing pants
and the person not wearing pants is

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peeing on the other
person have you seen that yeah and then

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they
they say okay see you’re getting exposed

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you’re getting a lot of pee on your leg
and that’s not good and then there’s a

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person wearing a pair of pants
who’s peeing on the other person wearing

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pants and there’s less pee on their leg
so by that equation

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amazingly scientific is saying that you
are

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less exposed to covid by wearing a mask
because there’s respiratory droplets

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um let’s talk let’s just hit that right
on the head right now

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are people increasing their safety by
wearing a mask

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no the answer is no i’m going to explain
that

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because what you’re doing when you put
on a surgical mask

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a homemade cloth mask an n95 mask
is you are putting on something that

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covers your face
to try to stop a micron the size of

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0.125
microns right and the largest

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that this particulate is this particular
virus is 0.3

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microns any n95 mask
and that is where we start when we talk

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about respirators it actually starts
with the n95 that’s the lowest

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end of a fully uh recognized respiratory
okay the the smallest particulate that

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it will filter out is 0.6 microns

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so it doesn’t matter if you have a face
mask on if you have an n95 surgical mask

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on
that viron is going to escape all around

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the airflow centers around the nose
and the side of the face and it will

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escape it will cross through the
membrane

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now what everybody is saying what
everybody is so hung up on is

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yeah but it will stop some it will stop
some of that virus that’s trapped in

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mucus or in water droplets
right yeah it will stop some but is it

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going to stop
you who is standing within talking

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distance from me from
getting the virus from coming into

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contact with this virus just because we
might stop some

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or catch some of the virulent
particulates no absolutely not

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there have been study studies after
studies after studies that show and

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these ar randomized control tests with a meta

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data analysis
that show they’re they’re really

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concentrated on healthcare workers
so as you know because you’re a

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physician you
live and work in surgical masks right

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well those surgical masks
were designed to be worn in a sterile

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environment in the first place
and they were never designed to prevent

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virun transmission
and so these tests were looking

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specifically at healthcare workers
and why is it that there’s a very high

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level of
infectious disease transmission among

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healthcare workers
particularly viruses like flu influenza

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type
respiratory type why is it that if

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they’re in a sterile environment and
they’re wearing surgical masks all day

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that doctors and nurses health care
workers are transmitting viruses like

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crazy
there’s a very high level of

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transmission among health care workers
and staff

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so there’s been quite a few tests done
specifically on

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that topic and what we know most of it
is because of that fomite transmission

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it’s because that surgical mask will not
stop a virus

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from passing through and somebody that
you’re working around from getting it

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it’s only designed to catch bacteria
from your mouth if you

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cough or sneeze while you’re doing
surgery on a patient

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and you have been you know to caught that
mucus or those particulates some of

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that bacteria will get trapped on that
mask that’s what it’s designed for not

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for stopping viruses
so doctors and nurses if they do have a

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virus they need to stay home
because they will infect everyone around

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them that that mask does literally
nothing to prevent

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the spread of the disease so this
everybody is so hung up on it’s like

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they’re in love with the mask mandate
they’re so in love with this idea

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and they are embracing it and they want
to argue for it it’s what we call

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confirmation bias
they are believing the narrative hook

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line and sinker and they won’t listen to
the facts they won’t listen to the data

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and so they’re they’re holding on to
anything they can to say yeah but

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so yeah but it might it might catch a
few byron particulates

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my answer to that is yes it might you’re
right but is that going to stop somebody

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who would otherwise catch this virus
from you

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no they’re still going to catch it if
they’re if they’re within

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that range that talking distance range
about three feet

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right where there’s transmission likely
it’s going to happen

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with or without that mask on so now the
conversation becomes about greater risk

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okay so if we know that the masks and
the surgical mask even the n95s do not

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stop viron transmission do not stop the
spread of infectious disease

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if we know that by all the studies that
have shown directly specifically

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that that’s the case then we have
to look at

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so if we do wear a mask is there a risk
caused just from wearing the mask in the

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first place is there a greater risk now
so we have to factor that risk reward

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conversation right and that’s where
my background as a PPE expert

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I can tell you what the risks of wearing
a face covering or a mask

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all day are and they’re very different
for the average public than they would

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be for you
or your staff working in a carefully

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controlled micro environment of surgical
suites or hospital settings

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medical facilities have very different
designs from an engineering hvac

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ASHRAE standards all based on OSHA
requirements for medical facilities

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so it is a very different conversation
for a doctor or nurse or health care

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worker
who’s working in a surgical mask to say

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I can work very easily in a mask it’s
not a big deal then

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somebody in the construction
fields or a manufacturing facility

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because they’re working in very
different environments and it’s not

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controlled it’s not monitored
and we’re seeing now it’s been enough

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months where we’ve been doing this
that we’re starting to see some very

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serious adverse health effects
caused by the wearing of masks and

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that’s where I am really speaking up
about this because

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like I said I’m a PPE expert and this
is what I do this is all I do

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and so people like me don’t stand up and
say something and speak truth

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the average public that you know they’re
not hearing this they’re not hearing the

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ads
you know the confirmation bias is

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extremely strong
I mean my colleagues are

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they’ve lost all respect for me
because

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I am not on the mask bandwagon you know

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I do believe in social distancing I do
believe that

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people should be you know supporting
their health and stay home if they’re

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sick or
feeling any signs of being sick or weak

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they should just avoid
if you’re you know feeling susceptible

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you know
any particular day maybe have somebody

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else go shopping for you
you know the social distancing that

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makes sense to me
you know let’s stop the crowds and

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what’s also weird is the riots and
there’s

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anyway so in terms of
the strong strong confirmation bias I’m

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I mean I’m positive
folks that there are commenting right

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now blasting each other back and forth and

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and i will say
to you listening you know

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it is so easy to get an argument on
this and a fight

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on this with your peers with your loved
ones with your family with your enemies

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with
friends and acquaintances and so on I

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would
just say if it starts getting ugly just

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just stop
yeah because police is too strong you’re

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you’re basically
you know you know asking a Christian to

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become Muslim
and a Muslim to become Christian  and

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and its beliefs are so strong so don’t

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get yourself worked up on this because
that

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being worked up is going to suppress
your immune system and then you’re going

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to get covered you’re going to get
really really sick

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so stay positive my the whole goal
of this is to give you scientific facts

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with Tammy who
is a certified specialist in PPE’s

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and give you the tools for your own
personal

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choice and we are going to give you even
more than that resources to protect

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you and your family
which we’ll do later Tammy I had a

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conversation
with the cardiologist who lives in my

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neighborhood
and I asked him how’s business because

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so many of my colleagues who have
typical clinics have to close up their

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business
because they don’t have enough patients

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because the patients have been so scared
to go see doctors

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because of COVID and this gentleman
said that his practice he’s never been

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busier he says he’s seeing strokes
heart attacks he’s been putting in

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stints left and right he’s never seen it
so

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so busy and he goes it was crazy
is it’s in the 30 to 40-year-olds

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oh my gosh
yes so the stress of COVID and my

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question was not just to stress from it
that media

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is just pounding on because fear creates
views right

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exactly but i’m wondering the lack of
oxygenation

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is going to cause inflammation which is
going to cause a greater response

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to cardiovascular disease and covid
itself

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cytokine storms so you know let’s talk
about the oxygenation or the lack

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thereof
that people are having and i’m hearing

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people saying well if
if we’re just wearing the I should have

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brought my mask in here which
I you know anyway  there’s

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people will do this or they’ll you know

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wear a little bandana
um let’s talk about oxygen and mask

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wearing with face shields and so on what
what’s going on there that to be honest

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with you was my biggest concern right
off the bat

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that we were not designed to breathe
with our mouth and nose covered i mean

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let’s just
let’s just stop and think about this

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from a common sense perspective
right it is not healthy to cover your

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mouth and your nose and to breathe
without being able to really truly

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intake the amount of fresh oxygen that
we need when we inhale

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and to exhale that carbon dioxide and
waste gas

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bacteria pathogens viruses that may be
in our system it’s got to get out

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and dispersed into the ambient air where
in the sunshine

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I mean if you understand viruses which
you do because you’re a doctor the outer

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shell of those viruses are very fragile
actually and they

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they just for all you know practical
terms to keep it simple they melt

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in the sunshine and so they’re dispersed
at that point

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so that is how god designed our bodies
that is how our environment works to

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keep pathogens under control and viruses
under control

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and so when you now do this and you
force somebody to breathe that way

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especially for extended periods of time
they’re getting a reduced oxygen intake

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and people argue with me about this all
the time

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that’s not true and I just look at them
and I say

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think about it just from a common sense
perspective I mean I could show you the

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tests I can do a forecast monitor test and I

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can insert the tube and I can show you
the oxygen levels drop

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down to what we call well
hypercapnic levels and we’ll I’ll

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explain all that in just a minute but
when we start dropping down below 19 and

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a half percent oxygen it’s considered
IDLH or immediately dangerous to life

0:15:13.040,0:15:15.680
and health
and we will do that very quickly by just

0:15:15.680,0:15:18.959
putting on a face mask
you can insert that for gas monitor tube

0:15:18.959,0:15:21.519
right inside and it goes down to about
18

0:15:21.519,0:15:26.560
oxygen within just 30 seconds so you can
show people the tests and they still

0:15:26.560,0:15:30.480
want to argue with you
so this is where you said just

0:15:30.480,0:15:33.120
don’t go there don’t get mad don’t get
all worked up about it because you’re

0:15:33.120,0:15:37.279
creating other issues
but the oxygen issue is very real and if

0:15:37.279,0:15:40.880
you just stop and think about
how our bodies are designed and how we

0:15:40.880,0:15:45.920
breathe and how we exhale
and then you interfere with that process

0:15:45.920,0:15:48.480
of course you’re going to have adverse
health effects

0:15:48.480,0:15:51.759
and the lack of oxygen on the body every
one of our cells

0:15:51.759,0:15:57.440
relies on oxygen for energy to reproduce
right and so if we starve the body of

0:15:57.440,0:16:02.160
oxygen the very
basic necessity that we have if we

0:16:02.160,0:16:05.440
starve the body for oxygen even
decreasing the levels a little bit

0:16:05.440,0:16:08.720
we are going to damage and harm every
cell

0:16:08.720,0:16:12.639
and all the tissues and systems in our
body and we’re starting to see that and

0:16:12.639,0:16:15.600
there will be
short-term effects and then there will

0:16:15.600,0:16:18.959
be longer-term effects
the short-term effects a lot of people

0:16:18.959,0:16:22.320
already know you can argue with me until
the cows come home

0:16:22.320,0:16:25.839
that you’re not getting a decrease in
oxygen but then those same people will

0:16:25.839,0:16:29.120
tell me
they get headaches they get nauseated

0:16:29.120,0:16:31.759
they get very fatigued when they’re
working in a mask

0:16:31.759,0:16:35.360
and those are the first signs and
symptoms that the body is struggling to

0:16:35.360,0:16:39.279
meet demands for oxygen
so all of these things that people all

0:16:39.279,0:16:42.079
over this country and really all over
the world are reaching out to me

0:16:42.079,0:16:45.440
and some of the stories are just
heartbreaking you know people that

0:16:45.440,0:16:47.360
have
lupus people that have autoimmune

0:16:47.360,0:16:52.720
disorders people that have COPD people that have  you know

0:16:52.720,0:16:55.360
breathing
breathing difficulties like the

0:16:55.360,0:16:58.079
distorted septum and things like that
where

0:16:58.079,0:17:01.519
they’re not getting good oxygen flow to
begin with and then they’re being forced

0:17:01.519,0:17:04.559
to work in a mask
these people are experiencing very

0:17:04.559,0:17:08.959
serious immediate
those acute immediate short-term

0:17:08.959,0:17:12.799
problems
and if you extend that out over long

0:17:12.799,0:17:15.760
periods of time
weeks and months you’re going to start

0:17:15.760,0:17:19.600
seeing the body
actually degrade and deteriorate and

0:17:19.600,0:17:21.679
we’re going to start seeing much more
serious

0:17:21.679,0:17:25.199
issues and let’s think about this for a
second the people who are most

0:17:25.199,0:17:31.760
at risk that want to wear a mask
are putting themselves most at risk

0:17:31.760,0:17:35.039
by wearing
a mask yes this is what i keep telling

0:17:35.039,0:17:38.480
people take the mask off and breathe in
fresh air fresh

0:17:38.480,0:17:41.760
oxygen and it’s interesting to me
because in the middle of all or in the

0:17:41.760,0:17:47.200
beginning of all of this
doctors cancer patients were being told

0:17:47.200,0:17:49.919
by their doctors
you probably shouldn’t be wearing a

0:17:49.919,0:17:52.720
mask like in the home
unless you go out in public where you’re

0:17:52.720,0:17:56.000
exposed to a lot of people
but you probably shouldn’t be wearing

0:17:56.000,0:18:00.320
a mask a lot well now
the narrative is now we’re hearing even

0:18:00.320,0:18:02.160
Dr. I’m not going to say the name because it

0:18:02.160,0:18:06.799
will definitely flag you on Facebook Dr. B is telling everybody in our

0:18:06.799,0:18:09.760
homes we need to mask up
you need to be putting your children in

0:18:09.760,0:18:13.440
them all day long and
you know get them practiced for this so

0:18:13.440,0:18:16.720
what we’re doing is we’re putting these
people that now need fresh oxygen and

0:18:16.720,0:18:20.400
probably oxygen therapy
more than anybody are now putting

0:18:20.400,0:18:22.880
themselves at risk and they’re running
their immune system down

0:18:22.880,0:18:25.600
when these are the very people that need
their immune system functioning at a

0:18:25.600,0:18:28.799
very high level
lots of fresh air lots of fresh oxygen

0:18:28.799,0:18:32.240
sunshine I’m not hearing anybody talk about

0:18:32.240,0:18:35.840
immunity
boost your immune system this is just a

0:18:35.840,0:18:38.080
virus
our bodies can handle viruses they were

0:18:38.080,0:18:41.280
designed to if our immune systems are
functioning as they should

0:18:41.280,0:18:45.919
but we are doing all the wrong things
and so we’re creating bodies that are

0:18:45.919,0:18:50.240
toxic that’s what the hypercapnia
situation is when you cover the mouth

0:18:50.240,0:18:53.200
and nose
and you don’t allow the carbon dioxide

0:18:53.200,0:18:57.760
and the waste gas
even virus particulates and bacteria and

0:18:57.760,0:19:02.080
pathogens to get out of your body
and you trap all of that then you

0:19:02.080,0:19:05.200
re-breathe it in
you’ll re-breathe in a good amount of

0:19:05.200,0:19:08.799
that and after a while it causes the
body’s blood system

0:19:08.799,0:19:12.240
to become toxic it’s called hypercampia
yeah

0:19:12.240,0:19:19.679
and and and exhalation is full of waste
gases yeah it’s not just CO2 folks

0:19:19.679,0:19:23.679
you’re also breathing out acetone you’re
also breathing out solvents

0:19:23.679,0:19:26.559
you know you’re there’s a lot of
things that you’re breathing out that

0:19:26.559,0:19:29.919
need to be
exhaled you know when someone has if

0:19:29.919,0:19:32.400
you’re a person who’s been struggling
with bad breath your whole

0:19:32.400,0:19:35.760
you know most of your life or maybe even
recently you brush your teeth you floss

0:19:35.760,0:19:38.799
and you do all that
that’s coming from your gut so the

0:19:38.799,0:19:42.240
amount of gases that your your
microbiome is generating is

0:19:42.240,0:19:46.320
massive so you know the hydrogen sulfide
and methane

0:19:46.320,0:19:51.840
and other hydrogen gases are
a big big deal that need to be exhaled

0:19:51.840,0:19:56.400
because hydrogen sulfide
in excess is going to be a big big

0:19:56.400,0:19:58.960
problem
and it is a big problem and if people

0:19:58.960,0:20:04.320
are or cannot exhale that
that’s issues I mean people with SIBO

0:20:04.320,0:20:08.720
have huge amounts of air
and you know of gases that they’re

0:20:08.720,0:20:12.960
re-inhaling by wearing a mask
so you know it’s in SIBO is a huge

0:20:12.960,0:20:16.159
problem and then fatty liver is the
fastest growing condition

0:20:16.159,0:20:19.360
in the planet and if you’re hurting if
you’re

0:20:19.360,0:20:24.000
re-breathing these waste products
that’s putting a burden as you said

0:20:24.000,0:20:29.440
tammy right back on your liver
which then is going to affect your

0:20:29.440,0:20:32.240
hormone elimination your estrogens are
not going to be

0:20:32.240,0:20:36.080
eliminated so now you’re you’re possibly
your pms is going to be higher or your

0:20:36.080,0:20:41.760
or greater problems with that or your
you know estrogen sensitive cancers are

0:20:41.760,0:20:47.679
going to go up you know it’s in this
this whole thing is massively

0:20:47.679,0:20:55.120
a big big problem and you know I you know I don’t I go into stores

0:20:55.120,0:20:58.159
and I’ll wear the damn mask you know I
will wear it

0:20:58.159,0:21:02.320
but i will wear it under my nose not on
my nose

0:21:02.320,0:21:07.840
and you know I don’t want to be
you know getting yelled at I don’t want

0:21:07.840,0:21:12.559
to be having cops come up to me because
I know the anxiety and the stress

0:21:12.559,0:21:17.039
is going to outweigh that but I minimize
my exposure to stores

0:21:17.039,0:21:20.080
I don’t go into public places that
much

0:21:20.080,0:21:23.280
because I don’t want to deal with this
whole mask thing so

0:21:23.280,0:21:28.320
what do should people do with these mask
mandates that they need to go to stores

0:21:28.320,0:21:32.640
or they need to work
what do they do when they don’t have a

0:21:32.640,0:21:37.440
choice but to wear a mask
if okay so that’s kind of a loaded

0:21:37.440,0:21:40.240
question because I’m somebody who
doesn’t wear a mask I have yet to wear a

0:21:40.240,0:21:47.120
mask I just simply don’t do it
but I have a personality that’s pretty unafraid and I’m not afraid of

0:21:47.120,0:21:50.640
confrontation and I don’t like it it’s
not like I’ve been looking for it

0:21:50.640,0:21:55.520
but how do you how do you do that how do
you go in a store and get away with it

0:21:55.520,0:21:58.720
I just simply don’t do it and this is
why I just did a live about this the

0:21:58.720,0:22:02.480
other day because
the fear and the anxiety over this mass

0:22:02.480,0:22:05.440
issue alone has gotten to be so out of
control

0:22:05.440,0:22:08.960
and this is one reason i’m watching
people just get so anxious

0:22:08.960,0:22:12.559
and they’re so stressed out and they’re
so fearful because

0:22:12.559,0:22:16.080
they and I’m hearing I just had
somebody reach out to me on Facebook

0:22:16.080,0:22:19.600
last night and and said
I have not gone out of my house hardly

0:22:19.600,0:22:23.520
for two months because I just can’t deal
I cannot deal with this

0:22:23.520,0:22:28.320
and so I’m trying to be a source of
encouragement and hope to people

0:22:28.320,0:22:32.240
and I’m just trying to encourage people
that look if you want to wear a mask if

0:22:32.240,0:22:36.320
that makes you feel better
or if you feel like you know you’re it’s

0:22:36.320,0:22:40.880
let’s just be honest it’s become
fear has become the new virtue I’m

0:22:40.880,0:22:44.320
fearful of this virus so I’m showing
healthy respect for it

0:22:44.320,0:22:47.919
and so I’m doing what I need to do to
protect you whenever there’s around

0:22:47.919,0:22:53.360
so I care it’s virtue signaling I mean
that’s just get real that’s what it is

0:22:53.360,0:22:58.240
but I am somebody who I am not
going to further an agenda that I know

0:22:58.240,0:23:01.200
is wrong
I know there is so much wrong with us

0:23:01.200,0:23:06.159
I know we are not hearing the facts
so for me personally I will not further

0:23:06.159,0:23:10.400
and support and enable something that is
wrong and needs to be exposed

0:23:10.400,0:23:13.440
so I have always said from the
beginning I need to be part of the

0:23:13.440,0:23:15.919
solution
I have the information the knowledge the

0:23:15.919,0:23:20.000
experience the credentials
and the personality to just speak up and

0:23:20.000,0:23:23.440
stand up
and so what i’m trying to do is just

0:23:23.440,0:23:26.640
encourage people that if you are
somebody that you feel like

0:23:26.640,0:23:30.720
this is so wrong and it just drives me
crazy because I know this isn’t right

0:23:30.720,0:23:34.159
I just I mean I think there’s something
about all about this whole thing that

0:23:34.159,0:23:37.600
all of us sense in our gut
there’s just something not right with us

0:23:37.600,0:23:40.720
there’s just something wrong
and I think everybody I talk to feels

0:23:40.720,0:23:43.679
that way well there are a few who
you know have totally drank you know

0:23:43.679,0:23:46.640
they’ve drank the kool-aid they’ve
bought into a hook line and sinker and

0:23:46.640,0:23:49.760
those people they love their masks and
they’re embracing the whole thing and

0:23:49.760,0:23:51.600
just
they’re never gonna they don’t want to

0:23:51.600,0:23:55.679
hear it so that’s not who i’m talking to
and and that’s fine rock on to your

0:23:55.679,0:23:59.360
thing i’m talking to the people who
don’t know how to handle this they don’t

0:23:59.360,0:24:01.520
know what to do but they know this isn’t
right

0:24:01.520,0:24:05.520
and it’s stressing them out to the max I
want to calm the fears

0:24:05.520,0:24:08.559
and I want to just help them to relax
and to be

0:24:08.559,0:24:11.840
able to go into a store with their head
held high

0:24:11.840,0:24:17.440
confidently without wearing a mask
so I just did Ijust did a little

0:24:17.440,0:24:21.360
live video
on this last week and what I what I’m

0:24:21.360,0:24:24.080
telling people is
if you don’t want to wear a mask because

0:24:24.080,0:24:27.200
you don’t you don’t agree with it
and you believe it’s not good or not

0:24:27.200,0:24:31.760
right just
simply walk in like you own the joint

0:24:31.760,0:24:34.400
just be confident
I’m telling you what it’s the confidence

0:24:34.400,0:24:38.240
that’s key when wherever I go I don’t
even own a mask

0:24:38.240,0:24:41.760
I don’t care where I go I traveled to
Chicago for business last week

0:24:41.760,0:24:45.039
I crossed state lines I go wherever I
want to go and I just do my thing

0:24:45.039,0:24:48.640
I don’t ask for permission because I
don’t need to and nobody can make me

0:24:48.640,0:24:51.440
wear a mask
nobody can make me wear a mask I don’t

0:24:51.440,0:24:55.520
need to and so what I tell people who
are kind of feeling this way and they’re

0:24:55.520,0:25:00.960
so anxious about it is
just go in like you own the joint if

0:25:00.960,0:25:03.360
somebody is standing out there and
they’re the gatekeeper and they say

0:25:03.360,0:25:06.400
where’s your mask
just simply look at them in the eyes and

0:25:06.400,0:25:10.159
politely smile with a soft voice and a
smile

0:25:10.159,0:25:14.400
because honestly a soft voice turns away
wrath right soft dancer turns away wrath

0:25:14.400,0:25:18.080
and it’s true don’t get confrontational
you don’t need to be just walk in

0:25:18.080,0:25:21.520
with confidence people don’t want to
take on a confident person

0:25:21.520,0:25:23.760
they don’t really want to start a
confrontation with someone who looks

0:25:23.760,0:25:27.200
like they’re going to confront back
and I think that’s the vibe that I give

0:25:27.200,0:25:33.200
out when somebody says where’s your mask
you walk in with confidence and i

0:25:33.200,0:25:36.880
I just I just simply tell them I don’t
wear I’m sorry I don’t wear a mask for

0:25:36.880,0:25:40.159
health reasons
and I just keep walking I don’t stop I

0:25:40.159,0:25:43.760
don’t engage in the conversation
I don’t give them the opportunity to

0:25:43.760,0:25:48.640
have a conversation with me
and I just walk right on by and keep it

0:25:48.640,0:25:51.760
going
even if they make a comment I ignore it

0:25:51.760,0:25:56.400
I tune it out and I keep going
and I just I choose to not see it I mean

0:25:56.400,0:25:59.679
it’s really hard for me it really drives me

0:25:59.679,0:26:02.960
crazy when I see the whole world walking
around with masks on I feel like we’re

0:26:02.960,0:26:06.080
living in bizarre
world what is going on this is

0:26:06.080,0:26:10.320
ridiculous
and I know that so I have to put myself

0:26:10.320,0:26:13.360
in that frame of mind
I’m not going to notice it I’m not going

0:26:13.360,0:26:16.960
to pay any attention to these people
if they want to walk around in masks

0:26:16.960,0:26:21.840
have at it walk around in masks
I’m not going to nobody can make me and

0:26:21.840,0:26:24.720
I know that it creates an unhealthy
condition for my body

0:26:24.720,0:26:29.039
so all I say is I’m sorry I don’t wear a
mask for health reasons

0:26:29.039,0:26:32.880
and I leave it at that and I just keep
going so tammy I’m going to do this

0:26:32.880,0:26:36.799
today I need to go to the store today
and buy some irrigation stuff

0:26:36.799,0:26:40.640
for the yard and I’m gonna go into Home
Depot without a mask

0:26:40.640,0:26:44.720
yeah I have no confidence issues I mean
I will just go in there I’m a six

0:26:44.720,0:26:50.000
foot five guy and
you know that that helps so but even

0:26:50.000,0:26:55.440
if you’re five foot two and a lady and you know

0:26:55.440,0:26:58.480
still you can start your stuff and
that’s right with

0:26:58.480,0:27:05.039
with kindness that’s right and respect
right and I can manage all that

0:27:05.039,0:27:09.600
so I will do that today and I will let
you all know how it goes

0:27:09.600,0:27:13.039
because you know I am not I’ve not
gotten any

0:27:13.039,0:27:17.360
issue with my nose being exposed nobody
has come up to me and say hey cover your

0:27:17.360,0:27:21.919
nose
that has not happened so

0:27:21.919,0:27:28.559
we were turned down as a family
in one town here in Washington state

0:27:28.559,0:27:32.320
we could not go into a restaurant
because we did not have masks

0:27:32.320,0:27:37.919
and yeah so has that happened to you yes
yes and I have told people i’ll be

0:27:37.919,0:27:42.960
honest with you I have had a couple of people comment

0:27:42.960,0:27:46.480
I’ve had a couple like people in the
stores you know elderly ladies yell at

0:27:46.480,0:27:51.200
me where’s your mask and
they don’t know that first of all it’s

0:27:51.200,0:27:54.720
very very wrong
for somebody to do that to you because

0:27:54.720,0:27:58.480
how
dare you get into my business you don’t

0:27:58.480,0:28:02.000
know
that I don’t have COPD you don’t know

0:28:02.000,0:28:04.399
that I don’t have lupus
you don’t know that I don’t have a

0:28:04.399,0:28:07.760
deviated septum and I can’t breathe very
well to begin with you don’t know that I

0:28:07.760,0:28:11.279
was a woman who was raped and bound and
so it causes all kinds of

0:28:11.279,0:28:16.080
it triggers PTSD you don’t know my
health issues and how dare you get into

0:28:16.080,0:28:19.200
my business
but see this is what’s happening today

0:28:19.200,0:28:23.200
this mask
issue is causing a

0:28:23.200,0:28:28.960
a real civil almost disorder
you know civil like rebellion and this

0:28:28.960,0:28:31.360
this
it’s our Governor in the state of

0:28:31.360,0:28:35.919
Michigan actually
told people to forcibly encourage

0:28:35.919,0:28:41.120
encourage your fellow Michiganders to
you know wear masks peaceably or by

0:28:41.120,0:28:45.520
force if you need to
she actually said that and so what

0:28:45.520,0:28:48.880
that’s crazy that is so inappropriate
and wrong

0:28:48.880,0:28:52.640
and that is not leadership that is
the antithesis of leadership

0:28:52.640,0:28:58.399
are they up for re-election she will be
she’s not going to get re-elected but

0:28:58.399,0:29:03.120
what well what I’m seeing is there’s
there’s a high level of anger with

0:29:03.120,0:29:05.919
some people if you’re not wearing a mask
because they think you’re going to kill

0:29:05.919,0:29:07.840
me
don’t you care about people you’re going

0:29:07.840,0:29:12.480
to kill grandma or whoever
and they don’t have the facts and so I

0:29:12.480,0:29:15.039
never engage
I don’t want to I don’t want to get in a

0:29:15.039,0:29:19.200
fight I just smile I intentionally so here’s what

0:29:19.200,0:29:23.039
it’s forcing us to do
it’s forcing us to get really good at

0:29:23.039,0:29:28.080
our social skills
and be very intentional about what we do

0:29:28.080,0:29:34.880
where we go how we behave our
even our body language and the craziest

0:29:34.880,0:29:37.760
thing about this is while we’re having
to get really good at that to manage

0:29:37.760,0:29:40.720
that what we’re teaching our new our young

0:29:40.720,0:29:43.600
generation of children
is they’re not going to be learning

0:29:43.600,0:29:47.360
these social cues they’re all like this
and they can’t read adults faces they

0:29:47.360,0:29:51.039
can’t read
their peers faces I just listened to

0:29:51.039,0:29:56.000
one of the frontline doctors who was a
child psychologist talk about our

0:29:56.000,0:29:59.679
children
are guinea pigs right now if we continue

0:29:59.679,0:30:04.080
this and they have to wear masks
all the time they are going to lose the

0:30:04.080,0:30:07.200
ability to create those neurological
connections which you know

0:30:07.200,0:30:11.279
as a doctor there is a short window of
time in which neurological connections

0:30:11.279,0:30:14.640
can be formed in a child’s brain
and after a certain time you can’t go

0:30:14.640,0:30:17.520
back and make some of those connections
form again

0:30:17.520,0:30:21.360
and they’re going to be missing out on
this social development

0:30:21.360,0:30:25.679
the emotional in development the
emotional intelligence development

0:30:25.679,0:30:28.880
because children even babies they read
their mama’s faces

0:30:28.880,0:30:32.320
yes right and we look into the eyes and
there is all kinds of neurological

0:30:32.320,0:30:34.799
connections being formed just by that
process

0:30:34.799,0:30:39.200
that bonding process the social cues
reading emotional language

0:30:39.200,0:30:42.559
we are taking that away from our young
generation and it’s going to be a very

0:30:42.559,0:30:45.039
scary result
because we’re going to create a

0:30:45.039,0:30:50.559
generation that is cold
they’re not able to read emotional

0:30:50.559,0:30:53.039
language
read body language and sense from the

0:30:53.039,0:30:55.600
other person what the vibes they’re
putting out

0:30:55.600,0:30:58.720
and how they’re feeling I heard that
mask wearing

0:30:58.720,0:31:04.559
actually since you cannot see the mouth and and the emotions you know the

0:31:04.559,0:31:08.880
lower half is creating a loss of empathy

0:31:08.880,0:31:13.120
yes exactly which then that’s a vicious
cycle

0:31:13.120,0:31:16.720
because if you have a loss of empathy
then you’re gonna be more reactive to

0:31:16.720,0:31:19.200
people who
are you know not wearing masks if you’re

0:31:19.200,0:31:22.000
a mask you know if you are wearing masks
and

0:31:22.000,0:31:26.720
you know it’s and then and if you
are seeing somebody wearing a mask

0:31:26.720,0:31:31.279
you are going to lose empathy for them
so now it’s going to have this

0:31:31.279,0:31:38.320
huge bad psychological
spiraling downhill and I can’t imagine

0:31:38.320,0:31:42.720
as a student
college or elementary school but as

0:31:42.720,0:31:45.360
you said
you know you know younger years are most

0:31:45.360,0:31:48.559
important but
even now I mean the suicide rate in

0:31:48.559,0:31:52.720
teenagers
and and is is an all-time high

0:31:52.720,0:31:56.399
and this is going to make it even worse
oh yeah if you don’t have the emotional

0:31:56.399,0:32:00.799
support or a smile from people
so let’s talk about masks in school what

0:32:00.799,0:32:04.000
do parents do I mean I see tons of
questions all the time

0:32:04.000,0:32:07.679
my school is mandating masks for for my
kids

0:32:07.679,0:32:11.760
yeah I think all schools are now across
the board

0:32:11.760,0:32:14.960
except maybe a few private schools
private christian schools but still

0:32:14.960,0:32:18.000
I mean they’re all caving to fear fear
of

0:32:18.000,0:32:21.519
losing their accreditation fear of the
health department and so they’re all

0:32:21.519,0:32:24.559
caving
so what I did and not all schools will

0:32:24.559,0:32:29.120
let you get away with this in the beginning of all this my son

0:32:29.120,0:32:32.000
my youngest
is going to be a freshman so he really

0:32:32.000,0:32:35.120
wanted to play football he’s been
practicing over the summer

0:32:35.120,0:32:38.559
was looking so forward to football I did
not want him to wear a mask

0:32:38.559,0:32:44.080
so my mother-in-law actually created a
mesh mask for him

0:32:44.080,0:32:49.519
so it’s it’s cloth around here
but it’s mesh through here so you can

0:32:49.519,0:32:53.679
see his cute little face
and he can breathe and so I was okay

0:32:53.679,0:32:56.720
with that
well then they just took away football

0:32:56.720,0:33:03.200
in Michigan MHSAA no more football
so now the kids have to go to school

0:33:03.200,0:33:06.240
and they are not allowed to socialize in
the hallways you have one

0:33:06.240,0:33:10.000
line of kids walking this way and the
other this way there’s no interaction

0:33:10.000,0:33:13.120
in the hallway they are not allowed to
sit and eat lunch together

0:33:13.120,0:33:16.799
there is no recess there is no PE gym
class where they’re getting up and

0:33:16.799,0:33:19.679
getting exercise
now their sports now football’s been

0:33:19.679,0:33:22.159
canceled and so they’re and they’re all
going to be like this

0:33:22.159,0:33:26.640
all day long it’s too much we pulled our
son out we’re homeschooling him this

0:33:26.640,0:33:29.039
year
there’s no way my son is going to be

0:33:29.039,0:33:32.799
subject to that
and I don’t trust to be very honest with

0:33:32.799,0:33:35.519
you I mean this is a whole other
conversation but I don’t trust the

0:33:35.519,0:33:37.919
schools
that they’re not just going to come in

0:33:37.919,0:33:42.000
and vaccinate without parents knowledge
and they did it in the 50s with polio

0:33:42.000,0:33:44.399
and I have no doubt
the health department will show up

0:33:44.399,0:33:48.559
eventually and just you know so
this whole parents that are concerned

0:33:48.559,0:33:51.919
about this every single parent in the
United States is concerned about this

0:33:51.919,0:33:54.880
right now
and they’re also they’re also forcing

0:33:54.880,0:33:58.720
hand sanitizer use yes which is going to make

0:33:58.720,0:34:01.440
you sick
because you need you need I mean of

0:34:01.440,0:34:04.480
course after we go to the restroom or
before we eat we should always wash our

0:34:04.480,0:34:07.039
hands clearly and I agree with you social

0:34:07.039,0:34:10.480
distancing is enough
if you just keep keep you know a little

0:34:10.480,0:34:13.359
bit of distance between you and another
person you’re not necessarily breathing

0:34:13.359,0:34:15.919
in their stuff
right if people stay home when they’re

0:34:15.919,0:34:18.159
sick they wash their hands as they
should

0:34:18.159,0:34:21.520
when it’s appropriate and just kind of
keep your distance that’s enough

0:34:21.520,0:34:25.119
right there but with constant hand
sanitizer use

0:34:25.119,0:34:28.960
we’re going to be destroying the good
healthy bacteria

0:34:28.960,0:34:33.040
that lives on our body and it’s going to
create an unhealthy condition

0:34:33.040,0:34:36.560
in addition to the additional chemical
exposure

0:34:36.560,0:34:40.480
and they are spraying these schools down
so my son we were told he was going to

0:34:40.480,0:34:43.359
have to leave the classroom
they’re going to have an additional five

0:34:43.359,0:34:47.359
minutes so that they can spray the
entire classroom down with chemicals

0:34:47.359,0:34:53.520
in between every class yeah I was like
no way because that kind of chemical toxin

0:34:53.520,0:34:56.320
exposure
oh my gosh we’re gonna start seeing all

0:34:56.320,0:35:00.079
kinds of the
MSDS sheet I’ve researched what they’re

0:35:00.079,0:35:04.160
using
and I need to learn at pharmacokinetics

0:35:04.160,0:35:07.119
and you know basically how the body will
metabolize that

0:35:07.119,0:35:10.480
yes it’s not going to be easy and they
said that

0:35:10.480,0:35:14.800
it’s not let me put it this way there’s
not enough time

0:35:14.800,0:35:20.560
between this application of the spray
to people going back into that wherever

0:35:20.560,0:35:23.200
there it is
it’s it’s not enough time it’s the the

0:35:23.200,0:35:26.079
manufacturer
states that you need to be out of that

0:35:26.079,0:35:29.440
room for a longer period of time than
airplanes are doing

0:35:29.440,0:35:33.280
that movie theaters are doing and so on

0:35:33.280,0:35:37.599
so you know we are deviating a bit
from mass here but it is all connected

0:35:37.599,0:35:41.599
yeah it is yeah so my recommendation to
parents is

0:35:41.599,0:35:45.680
if you’re somebody who you know not
every parent is able to homeschool

0:35:45.680,0:35:48.720
not every parent has the money to send
their child to a private Christian

0:35:48.720,0:35:51.119
school where maybe they’re not mandating
some of this

0:35:51.119,0:35:55.359
and so I really my heart hurts for
parents my heart really hurts for kids

0:35:55.359,0:35:58.800
the anxiety level for these kids is just

0:35:58.800,0:36:02.880
it’s terrible and we’re creating a very
unhealthy population because

0:36:02.880,0:36:07.440
of all the stress and the anxiety so my
goal with the knowledge I have and

0:36:07.440,0:36:11.280
and all of that the information that I
have is to try to help people to reduce

0:36:11.280,0:36:13.920
the stress and to lower the anxiety and
give you some

0:36:13.920,0:36:18.400
some resources and some tips one of the
things I would tell you is

0:36:18.400,0:36:24.000
to get as porous of a mask as possible
and encourage your child because trust

0:36:24.000,0:36:25.760
me these kids are going to be touching
their masks

0:36:25.760,0:36:28.720
all day long which is another
conversation because now they’re going

0:36:28.720,0:36:31.839
to be creating
and where it’s counterproductive to what

0:36:31.839,0:36:34.960
we want them to be doing we don’t want
to be touching the hand the face all the

0:36:34.960,0:36:36.640
time
now these kids are going to be pulling

0:36:36.640,0:36:39.760
on their masks all the time slingshots
they’re going to be whipping them around

0:36:39.760,0:36:41.760
you
know this is going to happen with kids

0:36:41.760,0:36:44.880
you know some kid’s going to come home
with somebody else’s mask because hers

0:36:44.880,0:36:47.440
was cuter than mine and so we traded
masks today

0:36:47.440,0:36:50.800
I can just see it so what I’m telling
parents is

0:36:50.800,0:36:55.119
make the mask as porous as possible and
encourage your child to always pull it

0:36:55.119,0:36:58.560
down under their nose
everything just please pull it down

0:36:58.560,0:37:02.720
under your nose so that you can breathe
now this there’s no way the school is

0:37:02.720,0:37:05.760
going to be able to police
thousands of children hundreds of

0:37:05.760,0:37:09.680
children thousands of children so as
you’re sitting in your classroom walking

0:37:09.680,0:37:14.079
tell your kids you need fresh oxygen
it is important that you just pull your

0:37:14.079,0:37:17.599
mass below your nose as much as
possible

0:37:17.599,0:37:23.839
and they’re going to be able to get away
with doing that I don’t nose breathe

0:37:24.880,0:37:28.640
the number one thing is is the nose
breathe yeah a lot of people

0:37:28.640,0:37:31.680
already don’t nose breathe and if they
have allergies and all that you’ve got

0:37:31.680,0:37:36.000
to dial that in
right right yep so the other thing

0:37:36.000,0:37:38.720
too and i’m going to share this with you
and this was a conversation that you and

0:37:38.720,0:37:42.400
I had before we went on is that
I actually worked with an attorney group

0:37:42.400,0:37:48.400
to have a legal medical waiver created
for my daughter who as she was working

0:37:48.400,0:37:50.960
in a mask
she’s somebody who has gotten migraines

0:37:50.960,0:37:55.359
for years and she has to take special
medication when she feels one coming on

0:37:55.359,0:37:59.040
but not a lot maybe once a month or
every couple months

0:37:59.040,0:38:02.160
but they’re bad and it puts her in bed
for a couple of days if she doesn’t get

0:38:02.160,0:38:07.040
that medication in her right away
so when she started working in a mask

0:38:07.040,0:38:11.119
it started triggering these I started
noticing that she was getting these

0:38:11.119,0:38:15.599
migraines
more frequently and so I knew I’m

0:38:15.599,0:38:20.960
somebody who is I’m very used to reading
legalese I read contracts because I work

0:38:20.960,0:38:25.359
with regulatory agencies I
am an OSHA PPE environmental health

0:38:25.359,0:38:28.640
safety compliance expert
I’m certified through OSHA lots of

0:38:28.640,0:38:32.640
different you know areas that I work
with OSHA and the EPA

0:38:32.640,0:38:36.240
and the DOT so I’m used to reading
regulatory language

0:38:36.240,0:38:39.839
so when I read the language in the
executive orders and I think every state

0:38:39.839,0:38:43.839
has
very similar executive orders that

0:38:43.839,0:38:47.359
it says so and so you know the public
must wear

0:38:47.359,0:38:51.440
masks indoors with more than so many
people or however your State’s

0:38:51.440,0:38:54.880
particular EO is written
but there’s always an exemption for

0:38:54.880,0:38:59.680
those who are not medically able to
tolerate a face mask okay so when I read

0:38:59.680,0:39:02.240
that
and then I saw my daughter struggling I

0:39:02.240,0:39:04.320
went to an attorney group that I have
worked with

0:39:04.320,0:39:08.160
just through my business for other
things and I had them

0:39:08.160,0:39:12.880
create a legal medical waiver for me
because this was right on the forefront

0:39:12.880,0:39:15.200
of all this nobody had any medical
waivers or anything

0:39:15.200,0:39:18.400
and yet there was language in the
executive order that allowed somebody

0:39:18.400,0:39:21.200
who couldn’t medically tolerate it to be
exempted

0:39:21.200,0:39:23.920
so I was trying to figure out okay so
how do we take advantage of the

0:39:23.920,0:39:29.200
exemption it’s there
so my attorney actually created a legal

0:39:29.200,0:39:32.240
medical waiver
that is written based on the current

0:39:32.240,0:39:36.560
executive orders
and ADA and HIPAA laws and so I

0:39:36.560,0:39:39.920
that is a template that I have been
willing to share with people I’ve taken

0:39:39.920,0:39:44.320
the attorney’s name off
and I’ve taken my name off because I

0:39:44.320,0:39:48.160
it’s not foolproof
I could share it with you and you could

0:39:48.160,0:39:51.760
use it and somebody might turn you down
you know you could give it to your

0:39:51.760,0:39:54.960
school and the school might say sorry
we’re not accepting that

0:39:54.960,0:39:59.040
so it’s not foolproof but it is a
resource that if you are willing to

0:39:59.040,0:40:02.560
stand up and challenge
my attorney told me there is no reason

0:40:02.560,0:40:06.400
for anybody to not accept this
because this is based on the actual

0:40:06.400,0:40:11.040
language in the executive order
they should be accepting this so if they

0:40:11.040,0:40:13.280
don’t
you have a bigger problem on your hands

0:40:13.280,0:40:15.520
and you probably have a legitimate
lawsuit

0:40:15.520,0:40:18.720
and we’re starting to see more and more
of these lawsuits pop up

0:40:18.720,0:40:22.079
where people are challenging the the
companies

0:40:22.079,0:40:25.280
people are challenging their employers
for firing them because they couldn’t

0:40:25.280,0:40:28.160
work in a mask
that’s what we’re doing my daughter was

0:40:28.160,0:40:31.040
fired so
we’ve got a wrongful termination lawsuit

0:40:31.040,0:40:34.720
going and we have a very strong case
because she was promoted in the middle

0:40:34.720,0:40:38.480
of all this
this was not a performance issue this

0:40:38.480,0:40:43.520
was wrongful termination
and retaliation and according to ADA

0:40:43.520,0:40:47.119
which does not take a break just because
of COVID it applies

0:40:47.119,0:40:50.640
the ADA says that if an employee goes to
an employer

0:40:50.640,0:40:54.400
and they are struggling for whatever
reason to do their job for health

0:40:54.400,0:40:57.280
reasons
the employer must make every reasonable

0:40:57.280,0:41:00.560
accommodation
to work with that employee to help them

0:41:00.560,0:41:05.520
to do their job
right so this medical waiver can be

0:41:05.520,0:41:09.760
used for schools you know to
basically it’s an indemnity

0:41:09.760,0:41:14.240
it’s a hold harmless agreement that
you’re saying my child cannot wear

0:41:14.240,0:41:18.240
a mask for health reasons
but I will not come after you I will

0:41:18.240,0:41:21.119
never sue you for any COVID related
issues as long as

0:41:21.119,0:41:25.200
you allow me to use this waiver for my
child to opt out for health reasons

0:41:25.200,0:41:29.280
okay so they should accept it in a lot
of places I’ve had a lot of success with

0:41:29.280,0:41:32.000
it a lot of companies are like great
this is all I need

0:41:32.000,0:41:35.200
because they can prove to the state with
that waiver that

0:41:35.200,0:41:38.240
that we’ve got our mass signs on the
windows like we’re supposed to and we

0:41:38.240,0:41:41.119
encourage
social distancing and all of that but I

0:41:41.119,0:41:44.800
have somebody come to me who said
I can’t for health reasons and they give

0:41:44.800,0:41:48.240
me this medical waiver well the
executive order requires that people

0:41:48.240,0:41:51.119
that can’t medically tolerate it be
opted out

0:41:51.119,0:41:54.960
so it’s all legal and it’s
something that

0:41:54.960,0:41:59.040
schools should be using it’s something
that employers should use for their

0:41:59.040,0:42:01.040
employees
and it’s something that businesses

0:42:01.040,0:42:03.680
should use for their customers and their
clients

0:42:03.680,0:42:07.359
it’s perfectly legal and it’s based on
executive order language

0:42:07.359,0:42:11.200
so I’m making that available to people
just as a template

0:42:11.200,0:42:14.240
you can use it a lot of places will
accept it

0:42:14.240,0:42:18.000
places that I go that are very service
centric like

0:42:18.000,0:42:21.440
nail salons things like that where I
have to spend some time

0:42:21.440,0:42:26.319
have been very happy to accept that and
I’ve had no problems using it

0:42:26.319,0:42:30.000
other places like my school did not
allow it because their attorney told

0:42:30.000,0:42:34.800
them not to but at the same time it’s
these lawsuits are now coming out

0:42:34.800,0:42:38.319
I’m involved in a lawsuit in the state
of New Jersey

0:42:38.319,0:42:42.319
it’s a lawsuit against the state for
their school reopening plan

0:42:42.319,0:42:45.440
because it was so egregious and they
will not work with parents who have

0:42:45.440,0:42:48.240
special needs kids
who have children who you know maybe

0:42:48.240,0:42:51.839
have respiratory
issues they’re supposed to be allowing

0:42:51.839,0:42:54.400
those kids to not wear masks and they’re
not even budging

0:42:54.400,0:42:57.520
so there’s a lawsuit after lawsuit now
starting to pop up

0:42:57.520,0:43:01.680
because they’re not taking the
exemptions working with people

0:43:01.680,0:43:05.599
so what’s happening what I’m starting to
have what I’m starting to see happen is

0:43:05.599,0:43:09.280
other businesses and other schools are
now starting to take notice because they

0:43:09.280,0:43:12.160
don’t want these lawsuits
and a lot of these are class action

0:43:12.160,0:43:14.960
lawsuits you have a whole group of
parents get together

0:43:14.960,0:43:18.880
you know who say hey we have special
needs kids or our kids have respiratory

0:43:18.880,0:43:21.599
illnesses and you’re gonna force
this on us

0:43:21.599,0:43:24.800
how dare you that’s illegal you’re not
allowing the exemptions under the

0:43:24.800,0:43:27.119
executive order
those parents get together and sue the

0:43:27.119,0:43:30.079
school that’s the last thing the school
wants to deal with executive order that

0:43:30.079,0:43:33.920
you keep quoting where is that
in our State we have quite a few each

0:43:33.920,0:43:38.400
State has executive orders of their own
but for the most part they also have

0:43:38.400,0:43:41.599
language that there are
exemptions every State that I have seen

0:43:41.599,0:43:45.359
so far you’ve got to look at your own
State’s executive order

0:43:45.359,0:43:49.280
the mask mandate and it’s there’s always
a little clause in there that says

0:43:49.280,0:43:54.560
unless not able to medically tolerate it
and that’s what you look for so

0:43:54.560,0:43:57.520
those things kind of stand out to me
because i’m used to reading legalese and

0:43:57.520,0:44:00.079
things like that but
that’s what you want to look for in your

0:44:00.079,0:44:03.200
particular state and I’m guessing you
have people watching you from all over

0:44:03.200,0:44:06.560
so they’re going to have to look at
their own executive orders

0:44:06.560,0:44:10.720
and find that clause and that’s what you
base it on I have seen that in

0:44:10.720,0:44:13.280
Washington State I did see that in
there

0:44:13.280,0:44:16.720
what I’m hearing from people is is them
saying that

0:44:16.720,0:44:21.040
you know they say that you know
I can’t wear a mask for medical reasons

0:44:21.040,0:44:24.880
and then the security people say well
you know that’s too bad you just need to

0:44:24.880,0:44:30.451
wait outside and you can order your
groceries online or what have you

0:44:30.451,0:44:33.680
so I’m saying that you know yes are
they

0:44:33.680,0:44:37.440
is that does that count for
that business

0:44:37.440,0:44:41.119
you know to allow them to shop online and
put the groceries at the front or or

0:44:41.119,0:44:43.440
they’re supply you know whatever they
need and they’re

0:44:43.440,0:44:48.000
not allowed to go in still well that
remains to be seen

0:44:48.000,0:44:51.359
because again they have to make
reasonable accommodations it is illegal

0:44:51.359,0:44:53.760
for them to deny goods and services to
customers

0:44:53.760,0:44:57.119
simply because they have a disability
and you know and if you give them a

0:44:57.119,0:44:59.760
legal waiver
you fill that waiver out for that store

0:44:59.760,0:45:03.119
and you say I can’t wear a mask for
health reasons and you but I have a

0:45:03.119,0:45:05.680
waiver for you
and they don’t accept it and they deny

0:45:05.680,0:45:09.440
you goods and services that’s illegal
so it remains to be seen right now

0:45:09.440,0:45:12.720
because there are a lot of lawsuits that
are happening against businesses like

0:45:12.720,0:45:15.440
this
that are going to have to hit the

0:45:15.440,0:45:18.079
court and we’re going to have to set
legal case precedent

0:45:18.079,0:45:21.520
well our governor of Washington State
Inslee

0:45:21.520,0:45:29.359
who I’m voting against
he mandated businesses to not allow

0:45:29.359,0:45:34.240
to not sell to customers who are not
wearing a mask he specifically

0:45:34.240,0:45:38.400
told businesses they cannot serve
customers unless they’re wearing a mask

0:45:38.400,0:45:43.119
that is so illegal and unconstitutional
and that’s where I’m guessing there are

0:45:43.119,0:45:47.040
groups of citizens in your states
my Governor’s probably got about 20

0:45:47.040,0:45:50.640
lawsuits against her right now
from businesses from citizens the

0:45:50.640,0:45:54.560
federal government is involved in one
so I’m guessing I mean your Governor is

0:45:54.560,0:45:57.680
pretty ruthless too i’ve been i’ve been
watching

0:45:57.680,0:46:01.200
oh I’ve been watching I’m guessing that
there are lawsuits popping up against

0:46:01.200,0:46:04.720
him as well
because that is totally unconstitutional

0:46:04.720,0:46:07.440
and illegal and encouraging
discrimination

0:46:07.440,0:46:11.920
where the laws on the books actually
punish discrimination he’s telling them

0:46:11.920,0:46:15.280
to discriminate
so it remains to be seen whether or not

0:46:15.280,0:46:17.920
their plan
of how they’re going to provide goods

0:46:17.920,0:46:20.800
and services to their customers who are
not wearing masks

0:46:20.800,0:46:24.000
it’s going to have to go before a judge
and a judge is going to have to rule

0:46:24.000,0:46:27.599
whether or not that is acceptable
but there are some that are just like

0:46:27.599,0:46:30.640
Menards there’s class-action lawsuit
against Menards

0:46:30.640,0:46:34.400
they just they are so rude and so
discriminatory and so disrespectful of

0:46:34.400,0:46:36.400
their employees and their customers
rights

0:46:36.400,0:46:40.480
and health concerns that they just
simply flat out will refuse you

0:46:40.480,0:46:44.000
and so there are lawsuits
happening all over in every state that I

0:46:44.000,0:46:47.119
know of
in class action against that company and

0:46:47.119,0:46:49.359
they deserve it they need to be taught a
lesson

0:46:49.359,0:46:52.720
and it’s going to take lawsuits like
this to stop this

0:46:52.720,0:46:56.560
yeah and you know I just looked at
some of the comments and

0:46:56.560,0:47:02.079
Deborah Sweeney goes what’s the hell
what the hell is wrong with you

0:47:02.079,0:47:07.040
you know and  this is exactly
what I’m talking about

0:47:07.040,0:47:10.160
if you’re engaging in the
comments you know

0:47:10.160,0:47:13.760
you know going back and forth with with
someone just please don’t

0:47:13.760,0:47:19.280
don’t engage just don’t engage right
Deborah there’s nothing wrong with me

0:47:19.280,0:47:21.119
I’m just trying to figure out the
solution

0:47:21.119,0:47:24.800
here and you know I’m trying to
improve people’s health

0:47:24.800,0:47:32.079
and be aware that mask mandate is
is you know not something that should be

0:47:32.079,0:47:36.000
in my opinion and and for health reasons
should not be followed

0:47:36.000,0:47:39.280
social distancing being mindful
staying

0:47:39.280,0:47:43.599
home when you’re sick quarantining when
you’re sick all that makes 100 sense

0:47:43.599,0:47:47.520
right you know and also what I’m
seeing too is people who are wearing

0:47:47.520,0:47:49.760
masks I’ll be at the grocery store or
something

0:47:49.760,0:47:55.440
with my nose out and this
lady or guy will just come right next to

0:47:55.440,0:47:58.480
me and reach and grab something off the
shelf

0:47:58.480,0:48:01.520
like the mask is armor the social
distancing

0:48:01.520,0:48:07.280
is gone I know and we you know really
all that you and I are doing is we are

0:48:07.280,0:48:10.960
just
critically thinking this whole situation

0:48:10.960,0:48:13.599
through
and that’s what’s been so lost is the

0:48:13.599,0:48:19.520
ability for people to critically think
we now know the numbers are in

0:48:19.520,0:48:26.720
we now know that this virus
is not even as deadly as a bad flu

0:48:26.720,0:48:30.160
season
and yet we don’t go crazy off the rails

0:48:30.160,0:48:34.160
shut the whole economy down
mask everybody up make everybody sick

0:48:34.160,0:48:38.160
from wearing a mask from
not enough oxygen and you know over

0:48:38.160,0:48:42.240
hyper  their body
I mean we don’t do that because of a flu

0:48:42.240,0:48:45.599
if we’re sick
we stay home we wash our hands

0:48:45.599,0:48:48.960
frequently and we
practice good social distancing that’s

0:48:48.960,0:48:52.720
enough that’s enough I mean and now that
we have the science and the data

0:48:52.720,0:48:56.880
particularly with schools we know that
22 european nations who were very

0:48:56.880,0:49:00.720
COVID heavy
they went back to school they opened up

0:49:00.720,0:49:04.400
as
normal and there has not been one death

0:49:04.400,0:49:09.839
among those children in 22 countries
and there has not been one documented

0:49:09.839,0:49:14.400
case of child to adult
transmission of COVID so that’s the

0:49:14.400,0:49:16.640
facts
that’s the science that’s the data

0:49:16.640,0:49:20.079
that’s real data there’s no arguing with
the facts

0:49:20.079,0:49:23.920
so what are we doing what the hell are
we doing

0:49:23.920,0:49:26.800
what is wrong with us that we are doing
that we are sending our kids back to

0:49:26.800,0:49:31.599
school like this when we know
kids are kids are not transmitters

0:49:31.599,0:49:35.119
and kids if they do get it they have a
very mild most kids that test positive

0:49:35.119,0:49:37.839
for
are totally asymptomatic we know it does

0:49:37.839,0:49:41.440
not affect children like adults
and we also know the only children that

0:49:41.440,0:49:44.000
have died from this have had very
serious underlying

0:49:44.000,0:49:47.359
health or medical conditions right
that’s right well almost

0:49:47.359,0:49:51.119
everyone period yes it’s true every
person right

0:49:51.119,0:49:55.839
yes yes and then people say that
this is going to be something that I’ll

0:49:55.839,0:49:59.040
I’ll do on my own time but
you know people are saying that healthy

0:49:59.040,0:50:01.520
people are dying from COVID and that is
absolutely

0:50:01.520,0:50:05.920
100% false that is not true the facts do
not support that

0:50:05.920,0:50:11.520
no no it’s wrong so
these resources that Tammy is talking

0:50:11.520,0:50:14.240
about I will
have them for you my team is

0:50:14.240,0:50:18.319
collecting them
so Tammy’s going to email me the

0:50:18.319,0:50:22.079
resources that she’s talking about
I will put that together for you and

0:50:22.079,0:50:26.079
I’ll put it on my website
on drbenlynch.com for you to have

0:50:26.079,0:50:30.319
and
you know and if you firmly believe that

0:50:30.319,0:50:34.640
masks helping you
that’s phenomenal you know go for it but

0:50:34.640,0:50:37.839
I do urge and Tammy
and I’m going to speak for you a little

0:50:37.839,0:50:41.280
bit here tammy from what i’m hearing and
correct me if i’m wrong

0:50:41.280,0:50:46.400
you know do not wear your mask when you’re alone do not wear

0:50:46.400,0:50:50.319
your mask when you’re exercising
you know keep practicing you know social

0:50:50.319,0:50:54.480
distancing stay home when you’re sick
and do not wear that mask unless you

0:50:54.480,0:50:58.319
absolutely have to
and you know you’ve got to breathe

0:50:58.319,0:51:01.760
through your nose and you have to wear
your mask as as

0:51:01.760,0:51:05.599
little as possible because you are going
to make yourself more susceptible to

0:51:05.599,0:51:08.319
being sick
from not just COVID but from

0:51:08.319,0:51:13.680
cardiovascular disease diabetes obesity
and as I’ve talked to you all before

0:51:13.680,0:51:16.960
obesity
you have fuel on your body you have an

0:51:16.960,0:51:21.520
inability to burn it
oxygen is fire if you ever blow

0:51:21.520,0:51:26.240
on a fire and and you know it oxygen
requires fire to burn

0:51:26.240,0:51:30.240
and if you have fat on your body and
you’re wearing a mask

0:51:30.240,0:51:33.760
you’re going to accumulate fat so let me
ask you this question

0:51:33.760,0:51:38.480
have you increased you know
weight since this whole thing and that’s

0:51:38.480,0:51:42.000
not just emotional eating it could be
lack of oxygenation

0:51:42.000,0:51:46.079
so you know there’s there’s a lot of a
lot of problems here and

0:51:46.079,0:51:50.400
so there’s there’s so many questions and
so many issues with this

0:51:50.400,0:51:56.800
you know
and Tammy I want to hear this

0:51:56.800,0:52:00.800
answer from you about this argument
doctors and surgeons wear masks for up

0:52:00.800,0:52:05.680
to eight to twelve hours a day
um you know so if they can do it i can

0:52:05.680,0:52:09.440
do it
yeah that’s a common one I get all the

0:52:09.440,0:52:14.079
time so in my background
with environmental health and safety

0:52:14.079,0:52:16.720
I’ve worked with a lot of commercial
construction firms

0:52:16.720,0:52:19.760
and I’ve done a lot of testing and PPE
in those

0:52:19.760,0:52:24.640
buildings so basically PPE experts
we are the ones who tell the doctors and

0:52:24.640,0:52:28.559
nurses and that whole
industry what they need to be wearing to

0:52:28.559,0:52:32.079
protect themselves
so doctors and nurses wear the surgical

0:52:32.079,0:52:35.440
masks to prevent bacterial splashes on a
patient

0:52:35.440,0:52:41.599
doctors and nurses wear the n95s
for a reason and we are the ones who

0:52:41.599,0:52:43.760
come in
and we are the ones who assess the

0:52:43.760,0:52:48.960
pathogens the controls and all that
and then when we do determine that

0:52:48.960,0:52:51.599
for example in the medical community you
need to wear

0:52:51.599,0:52:54.880
gloves gowns face shields splash guards
whatever

0:52:54.880,0:52:59.040
there’s a reason for that and then
here’s why and then we educate and we

0:52:59.040,0:53:01.680
train on it and then we also have to
test

0:53:01.680,0:53:05.599
okay so this this whole topic first of
all is

0:53:05.599,0:53:10.160
about PPE personal protective equipment
masks were never designed to be you know

0:53:10.160,0:53:14.000
a face mask a homemade face mask it’s
not personal protective equipment

0:53:14.000,0:53:17.440
however when the government now starts
mandating

0:53:17.440,0:53:20.880
that you wear that to protect you and
others around you

0:53:20.880,0:53:24.960
you have now just made that PPE okay and
PPE

0:53:24.960,0:53:29.920
is very carefully regulated by OSHA but
OSHA’s turned a blind eye to this

0:53:29.920,0:53:33.119
and so there’s a whole that’s a whole
different conversation because now OSHA

0:53:33.119,0:53:35.680
is mandating that you have to wear face
masks to protect you

0:53:35.680,0:53:38.160
even though the science and the data
does not support it so that’s a

0:53:38.160,0:53:40.319
government agency that’s being
weaponized

0:53:40.319,0:53:42.960
okay and that’s a whole other
conversation that we could have and I

0:53:42.960,0:53:45.200
will I will not get into that one
because I want to stick on

0:53:45.200,0:53:49.520
stick to the medical systems and
facilities but

0:53:49.520,0:53:53.280
so when when we’re designing health care
systems

0:53:53.280,0:53:56.640
health care systems are designed for
infection control

0:53:56.640,0:54:00.400
right you know that and so the only way
that we can properly

0:54:00.400,0:54:04.400
build a facility for proper infection
control is to carefully control the

0:54:04.400,0:54:07.280
micro
environment of those surgical rooms

0:54:07.280,0:54:10.319
recovery rooms
suites things like that and so the

0:54:10.319,0:54:14.640
design
of the hvac systems the design of the

0:54:14.640,0:54:19.359
ventilation systems
are all built and based on ASHRAE

0:54:19.359,0:54:22.400
standards
and OSHA standards so you’ve got

0:54:22.400,0:54:25.680
engineers
and mechanical contractors that are

0:54:25.680,0:54:28.160
involved in the building of these
facilities that are

0:54:28.160,0:54:31.200
very very different than any other
building in our

0:54:31.200,0:54:34.240
in our environment in our industries in
our general industries

0:54:34.240,0:54:37.520
and so what doctors and nurses are
exposed to

0:54:37.520,0:54:42.640
when they’re in in their environment all
medical facilities are built this way

0:54:42.640,0:54:46.400
okay so a dentist’s office
laboratories

0:54:46.400,0:54:51.599
medical suites they are built with much
more frequent airflow and air cycle

0:54:51.599,0:54:56.000
exchanges
okay up to 25 per hour whereas in a

0:54:56.000,0:55:00.240
normal building
it’s about 12 to 15 cycles per hour

0:55:00.240,0:55:04.880
so the reason for that is because we’re
so carefully controlling the temperature

0:55:04.880,0:55:08.880
because for you when you’re practicing
okay you need to have a temperature

0:55:08.880,0:55:11.520
that’s
very consistent and very controlled to

0:55:11.520,0:55:14.960
keep you as comfortable as possible
so that you can do your work without

0:55:14.960,0:55:18.240
exerting too much energy your heart rate
will go up you’ll sweat

0:55:18.240,0:55:23.359
it’s distracting and so we know this
from physiological studies

0:55:23.359,0:55:26.880
with doctors and nurses performing
medical procedures so we need to keep

0:55:26.880,0:55:32.079
the temperature also controlled
to allow for better infection control

0:55:32.079,0:55:35.680
and pathogen control it’s also very
carefully controlled with the humidity

0:55:35.680,0:55:39.119
levels because we know that and then there’s

0:55:39.119,0:55:41.440
of course
pressure pressurized room uh so you’ll

0:55:41.440,0:55:44.640
hear the term positive air or negative
air based on whether we’re trying to

0:55:44.640,0:55:49.280
keep the infection in
or pathogen control in or out so there’s

0:55:49.280,0:55:52.400
different setups and designs of
mechanical systems

0:55:52.400,0:55:56.880
this additional airflow cycle is
bringing you a lot more fresh air and

0:55:56.880,0:56:00.880
cycle exchanges
and so doctors and nurses are much more

0:56:00.880,0:56:05.760
comfortable working in a surgical mask
with that than say you know somebody

0:56:05.760,0:56:10.000
working at Mcdonald’s over a hot
fryer or somebody in the construction

0:56:10.000,0:56:14.240
environment working in 90 degree heat
or somebody in a manufacturing facility

0:56:14.240,0:56:17.520
working over
a manufacturing line and it’s hot it’s

0:56:17.520,0:56:20.799
not even the same not even close
you are going to be much more

0:56:20.799,0:56:23.200
comfortable in your environment with a
surgical mask on

0:56:23.200,0:56:26.160
than I would be working on a
construction site and that’s just the

0:56:26.160,0:56:28.319
way it is
and so those people in those other

0:56:28.319,0:56:30.319
industries are the ones that we’re
seeing

0:56:30.319,0:56:36.559
have very serious issues with headaches
fatigue nausea sore throat

0:56:36.559,0:56:40.319
even dentists are now and you’ve
probably heard this as a doctor

0:56:40.319,0:56:44.559
in the medical field dentists are now
complaining about and they’ve turned a

0:56:44.559,0:56:47.760
new point the
masked mouth have you heard that one yes

0:56:47.760,0:56:51.280
yes
in the mouth and the gums is creating

0:56:51.280,0:56:54.720
gum disease and
tongue tongue disease bacteria is

0:56:54.720,0:56:57.680
accumulating in the mouth
and so it’s real stinky rough and it’s

0:56:57.680,0:57:01.839
small bacterial infections
which we know affects the whole body

0:57:01.839,0:57:04.160
affects our heart and all of our other
systems

0:57:04.160,0:57:07.200
what happens in the mouth happens to the
heart

0:57:07.200,0:57:10.319
and happens through the blood
circulating through the body

0:57:10.319,0:57:17.920
so there’s just a lot to this yeah
face shields

0:57:17.920,0:57:21.440
and I’ve just one more question we’ve
been on for quite some time and we’ll

0:57:21.440,0:57:23.680
let you go here because you got other
things to do but

0:57:23.680,0:57:26.880
I appreciate what you’re sharing here
and uh

0:57:26.880,0:57:31.200
face shields so face shields were
designed to be splash guards

0:57:31.200,0:57:34.960
basically they were not designed
to

0:57:34.960,0:57:38.079
you know face shields are a little
bit better because they’re not tight

0:57:38.079,0:57:40.720
sealing or they’re not so tight they’re
not so restrictive

0:57:40.720,0:57:43.760
but still face shields are not going to
protect you from a virus

0:57:43.760,0:57:47.520
at all it does absolutely nothing and it
still will allow some of that

0:57:47.520,0:57:51.119
accumulated
it doesn’t have good airflow so it’s

0:57:51.119,0:57:54.079
going to get hot and foggy and then
you’re gonna still having some of that

0:57:54.079,0:57:57.760
accumulated co2
and some of the other you know like I

0:57:57.760,0:58:01.280
said waste gases like you
mentioned accumulating so it’s not

0:58:01.280,0:58:04.079
really gonna do a whole lot for you it’s
going to be a little bit better

0:58:04.079,0:58:07.760
than completely covering the mouth and
nose but it’s gonna fog up it’s going

0:58:07.760,0:58:11.280
to make you tired
and then there’s distortion so trying

0:58:11.280,0:58:15.040
to do there are certain jobs that I have
seen people working at face shields in

0:58:15.040,0:58:18.160
bus drivers for crying out loud bus
drivers

0:58:18.160,0:58:21.920
that have distorted vision because their
face shield and they’re driving all of

0:58:21.920,0:58:24.960
our children around
so it’s like there are certain jobs that

0:58:24.960,0:58:29.200
you cannot have any distortion
at where it’s dangerous and so that’s

0:58:29.200,0:58:31.680
that’s not a good solution it doesn’t do
anything

0:58:31.680,0:58:35.280
another thing I’ll mention with the kids
is I experienced this with

0:58:35.280,0:58:40.799
my 12 year old son playing soccer
I’ve been coaching his team for a

0:58:40.799,0:58:45.440
number of years and
I didn’t coach this year and

0:58:45.440,0:58:48.960
because the coach didn’t like me as a
coach

0:58:48.960,0:58:54.480
for various reasons I told my son
I do not want using any hand sanitizer

0:58:54.480,0:58:59.119
during practice
at all when you wear a mask expose

0:58:59.119,0:59:02.559
your nose
and when you are running you are not

0:59:02.559,0:59:07.839
going to wear a mask period
and so the soccer association

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says you know they’ll be in small groups
not wearing a mask but going

0:59:11.440,0:59:14.240
to and from the field they have to walk
single file like you were sharing in

0:59:14.240,0:59:16.400
school
wearing the mask they couldn’t even talk

0:59:16.400,0:59:20.079
to their buddies
and  parents are not allowed to attend

0:59:20.079,0:59:24.880
games or watch games
only refs and other players

0:59:24.880,0:59:28.400
benches are on opposite side of the
field for the teams

0:59:28.400,0:59:33.040
and so my son Theo was not using
hand sanitizer

0:59:33.040,0:59:39.680
and the coach yelled at him to use it
and so my son out of

0:59:39.680,0:59:46.240
you know fear used it against
you know my direct statement to the

0:59:46.240,0:59:49.440
coaches
no hand sanitizer for Theo and I told

0:59:49.440,0:59:53.200
Theo
so when adults are around your kids and

0:59:53.200,0:59:56.720
you’re not there to
keep an eye on them and protect them you

0:59:56.720,0:59:58.880
know bad stuff like that’s going to
happen

0:59:58.880,1:00:01.839
so i’m pulling Theo off the team he’s
not playing soccer this season it’s not

1:00:01.839,1:00:06.640
going to happen
so you know homeschooling hopefully is

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an option for you
it sucks school is an important aspect

1:00:10.160,1:00:13.839
of growing up
but you also have to protect your kid

1:00:13.839,1:00:17.760
because it all it takes is one bad
teacher

1:00:17.760,1:00:21.200
or some bullying kids because parents
act like the kids and

1:00:21.200,1:00:25.040
I’ve been seeing text messages also from

1:00:25.040,1:00:28.240
my youngest Theo will show me text
messages between

1:00:28.240,1:00:31.440
kids on the topic of masks and you you
just

1:00:31.440,1:00:34.640
hear parents going back and forth
through their kids

1:00:34.640,1:00:38.400
so you know Theo is getting attacked for
not wearing masks and using hand

1:00:38.400,1:00:41.760
sanitizer from you know other 11 12 year
old kids

1:00:41.760,1:00:47.440
so this is a real real problem yeah
it is and so that’s why I’m doing my

1:00:47.440,1:00:50.559
best to use
like you are and I so appreciate other

1:00:50.559,1:00:54.400
professionals like you who have some
credentials and credibility and

1:00:54.400,1:00:57.520
empathy I have a lot of empathy for
people because

1:00:57.520,1:01:00.640
like you had mentioned that stress and
anxiety level is going to weaken your

1:01:00.640,1:01:03.680
immune system
you can’t have that kind of cortisol and

1:01:03.680,1:01:07.680
stress running through your body like
you know that that creates without

1:01:07.680,1:01:11.359
damaging and weakening your immune
system so I’m doing my best to provide

1:01:11.359,1:01:15.599
just some sensible solutions hope
just hang in there

1:01:15.599,1:01:18.880
try to focus on the good try to focus on
the positive

1:01:18.880,1:01:23.280
and just do what you can do and our
first responsibility to our kids is to

1:01:23.280,1:01:26.240
protect them
and if that means making inconvenient

1:01:26.240,1:01:29.280
decisions that’s what that means and I
know there’s a lot of tears involved

1:01:29.280,1:01:31.359
because
even though my son is a 9th grader and

1:01:31.359,1:01:35.040
he’s a football player he’s still a
little boy and he still had some tears

1:01:35.040,1:01:38.640
over this whole thing so all we can do
as parents is just try to do our best

1:01:38.640,1:01:42.640
and stay positive and encouraging for
our kids that we will get through this

1:01:42.640,1:01:45.680
but we have to protect you I mean and
you know

1:01:45.680,1:01:49.280
right you take the Hippocratic oath do
no further harm

1:01:49.280,1:01:53.359
I can’t do something that’s gonna cause
you more harm and when I know this

1:01:53.359,1:01:55.520
and I have the facts the science the
data

1:01:55.520,1:02:00.880
to support that then shame on me if I
if I put you in harm’s way I’d actually

1:02:00.880,1:02:03.520
allow you or do something that’s going
to cause you more harm

1:02:03.520,1:02:06.720
and that’s where I’m coming from because
like with you you

1:02:06.720,1:02:10.319
know this you have the understanding of
this I understand this

1:02:10.319,1:02:14.240
so if people like us don’t stand up and
speak out how will the average

1:02:14.240,1:02:17.599
person or the citizen who doesn’t have
this kind of expertise know

1:02:17.599,1:02:21.280
yeah yeah it’s it’s a it’s a big
goal its an important goal and

1:02:21.280,1:02:24.400
you know  the you know again I
want to remind you all

1:02:24.400,1:02:29.599
not to engage there’s a lot of
comments going on right now that are

1:02:29.599,1:02:32.720
very very negative and it’s gonna
continue happening

1:02:32.720,1:02:36.960
so you know both Tammy and I
are very qualified to have this

1:02:36.960,1:02:43.920
conversation with you
so you know I’ll just leave that at that

 

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